What's the next big automotive debate going to be?

"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
07/31/2014 at 09:31 • Filed to: None

Manual vs Automatic. It seems to come up at least once every two weeks here, with strings of people praising glory to the manuel while lambasting anyone who would even THINK that owning an automatic is okay.

Of course, as we all know the manual is dying, and with its future unclear I want to ponder a possible future where the manual is no longer available on new cars. What will we argue about then?

DISCUSSION (41)

Brian Silvestro > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:32

Electric vs Combustion

ncasolowork2 > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:34

Driverless vs. piloted

Kat Callahan > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:34

Manual will never die, it'll just become an enthusiast only thing. It pretty much already is.

Jayhawk Jake > Brian Silvestro
07/31/2014 at 09:34

I think this is most likely

Leadbull > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:35

Tom Tom vs. Garmin -based GPS systems.

Brian Silvestro > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:35

It'll be pretty much the same argument too. That it "takes away from the driving experience."

Jayhawk Jake > Kat Callahan
07/31/2014 at 09:36

Never say never...I think there's a decent chance we will reach a point when on mainstream cars so few people choose manual that manufacturers stop offering it. I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but I think it will. By 2030 I'd be surprised if any new cars have manuals.

Henry Diesel > Brian Silvestro
07/31/2014 at 09:36

whats the best driven wheels and why is it fwd?

Kat Callahan > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:38

Enthusiast kits/aftermarket transmissions/etc. There will always be a market.

Brian Silvestro > Henry Diesel
07/31/2014 at 09:38

This argument was already settled(it's whatever the fastest and most fun is), and I think you replied to the wrong thread.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:39

Self-driving cars vs traditional ones.

Henry Diesel > Brian Silvestro
07/31/2014 at 09:39

yep, I herpederped!

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:44

You're all so blind! We are in the next big debate right now! It's, "What will the next big automotive debate be?" #DebateInception WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

/endcrazyconspiracytheoristrant

HitRaj 47 > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:46

It will be "should I get the Samsung or LG screen for my car? I want my streamed 1440p HD Netflix stream on my way to work to look great", since no one will be driving :P

nermal > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:47

Sidebar discussion - What will be the last vehicle available in the US with a 3 pedal manual?

My vote for last 3 standing are GTI, WRX, and Wrangler, in no particular order.

spanfucker retire bitch > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:48

If the Jalopnik writers are anything to go by, it'll be Fuel Cell vs. EV, and they've already decided who the winner is.

RazoE > Kat Callahan
07/31/2014 at 09:50

Yup. Just like the carb, it'll live on..!!!

AthomSfere > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:51

Then I will have to move to Europe, or Australia. Yes, Australia!

Sn210 > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 09:53

The Dashboard. An oil pressure gauge vs. a camera for road selfies. A tachometer vs. your FB news feed. Knobs and buttons vs. Touchscreens.

We caught a glimpse of the future yesterday...

duurtlang > Leadbull
07/31/2014 at 09:54

#teamtomtom

kanadanmajava1 > ncasolowork2
07/31/2014 at 09:55

The automotive industry is quite serious about automated driving but it seems that we are still quite far away from globally available vehicles that would be totally autonomous. Google's test vehicles have operated very well but they depend heavily on 3d scanned road mapping. And the vehicles still require human operation in situations where the vehicle will get confused about the situation.

Some semi autonomous systems are already on market but so far they are only able to stay on lane and keep suitable distance to the vehicle in front. Totally autonomous vehicles will be seriously entering market at some point but it probably happens 15-20 years from now.

I think that manual-automatic battle will continue but it will also include different hybrid systems and different fuels (diesel, petrol/gas, CNG, LNG etc).

Nintondo-San > Kat Callahan
07/31/2014 at 10:05

Only in America though, really.

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 10:09

It'll be the clutch pedal, then the combustion engine, then the steering wheel. They will all die in that order, and every time I'll be the side of the curmudgeon.

Jayhawk Jake > nermal
07/31/2014 at 10:10

I don't think any of those will be it, especially the GTi. I'm surprised the GTi is still available with a manual to be honest, and Subaru sure seems eager to force a CVT on the WRX. I didn't even know the Wrangler could still be had with a manual...

It's going to be the Miata or Toyosubascion.

Leadbull > duurtlang
07/31/2014 at 10:12

Apple Maps is based on Tom Tom.

You like driving through buildings, duurtlang?

Sn210 > nermal
07/31/2014 at 10:13

I'm going to go with a future Japanese base-model econobox. They will only sell 47 with a manual, and twenty years down the road they will sell for triple the MSRP at Barrett-Jackson

nermal > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 10:14

I retract my previous statement, due to forgetting about Mini. I think they'll be the last holdout.

PelicanHazard > nermal
07/31/2014 at 10:14

My 3 picks are the Versa Note, Wrangler, and a 250/2500 diesel pickup.

duurtlang > Leadbull
07/31/2014 at 10:15

I don't Apple, but I do have a Tomtom app with offline maps on my phone. I've used it in 8 different countries and I've never encountered the problems people have with Apple Maps.

edit: maybe I should've gone along with the joke. Oh well...

nermal > PelicanHazard
07/31/2014 at 10:17

I dunno about the pickup. Ford and GM are both auto-only on all pickups currently, and based on an inventory search in my area the manual to auto ratio on Rams is only about 10%.

Racescort666 > ncasolowork2
07/31/2014 at 10:21

Came here to say that. Except I was going to word it "Manual vs. Automatic... drivers"

Jayhawk Jake > nermal
07/31/2014 at 10:32

Naw, they are owned by BMW, so it'll die off.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Henry Diesel
07/31/2014 at 10:48

Waddup Blu? Your avatar brings back memories

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 10:51

I'm going with Mustang, Corvette, Miata, or Viper *if it exists, most likely not :(

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
07/31/2014 at 10:53

Kinja'd!!!

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Sn210
07/31/2014 at 10:53

What happened yesterday? Should I even ask?

Sn210 > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2
07/31/2014 at 11:02

not to stir the pot, but Gizmoto or Gawker had a Ford designer on for questions. Somebody asked why tachometers were still relevant and stated they were a waste of space. The comment got shared to Oppo and I'll let you figure out what ensued.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Sn210
07/31/2014 at 11:08

Kinja'd!!!

Matt Urban > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 14:49

The next one will by how many gears can you cram in that automatic that we used to kill the manual. Where are we at now? 8? How long until road cars mimic 18 wheelers with 18 gears all slushing about to and fro

Leadbull > duurtlang
07/31/2014 at 18:14

To be fair, Apple Maps has gotten much better.

Howdy Harrell > Jayhawk Jake
07/31/2014 at 22:35

Driver vs. Self Driven